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[roxy]

This was quite an ep--very fast paced and shocking, sprinkled with bits of brotherly goodness and some real H/C without the C. I like where this is going very much. I wish we'd started off the season this way--it makes more sense to me in terms of the show. I still don't understand what the point of that Sam/Amelia thing was--we always knew that Sam wanted normal, no matter what he said aloud. I think like Sam does, they've given their all and deserve some rest, let the next generation carry it (could be a storyline?). Even soldiers retire. (mind you not that i want that because if it happened i'd be clutching a bowl of popcorn and staring at a blank screen.)

As for normal lives and how they're not possible--bullshit. You can get out of the life, they've shown us it's a possibility. Sam lived safe for a year, that happened. And Dean, even though he wanted to bitch about Sam ignoring hunting, he lived safe for a year himself. *Sam* was the one who pulled him out of that life. Sure, it was souless Sam but he did bring an end to Dean's normal. Plus, I think deep, deep down, contrary to Sam's belief, Dean really doesn't want that kind of normal. He always seemed more resigned to the life he had with Lisa instead of content. I'm sure there were many, many parts of that life that he liked, a lot, but deep down, he's not a picket fence, BBQs in the backyard kind of guy. I don't think Dean could relax enough to enjoy the life all the way. Just my opinion.

Anyhoo, good ep. *Excellent* ep.

Comments

[tabaqui]

Excellent, excellent, *excellent* ep.
Loved it so much.

:)

[roxymissrose.livejournal.com]

*happy sigh* Yes, it really was. I rewatched this morning(yay for days off!) and was just bowled over by Cas this whole ep--and Sam. And Dean. and Meg and Naomi...yeah, I just loved everything about it. :)

[portraitofafool.livejournal.com]

I loved this episode! And I may be reaching here because I think like the most batshit of writers when it comes to hints, foreshadowing and hidden messages: I think what Meg said to Sam about the dog... I think there's something there and she pinged on it where Sam never had. That hasn't ever made a lot of sense to me (the whole Amelia Thing/Year Without Searching didn't/doesn't for that matter) given what he was doing at the time, the rush he was in to get away and find help (or something--I'm a bit sketchy on the details because I missed a lot of the early-in-the-season episodes). So, I'm hoping that wasn't just a piece of throw-away dialog and there was a point to it that will be followed up on. I'm itching to find out what that was all about. Someone should write suppositional fic about it at any rate.

Rambling... again... but I do want to add: MEG! I love(d) her so much and that was so... fuck, man, you know? I also loved the unicorn stuff, how it was used as a metaphor for attaining the so-thought unattainable. That was, to me, a really subtle and nicely (and prettily) done piece of writing there. Then Sam and Dean and carrying and some of the worst classic rock ever (I've always hated that song, lol), but its lyrics said a whole helluva lot.

Overall: Yea! \o/

[roxymissrose.livejournal.com]

I'm with you--I want that Amelia thing explained to my satisfaction. Unless the whole point of everyone's references are that Sam's a big giant softie when it comes to dogs? In which case, boo.

It hurt my heart that they killed Meg--she was one of the really brilliant bad guys they had. Miner took that role and ran with it. I thought she did a wonderful job.

It was an A+ ep for me! :)

[capnzebbie.livejournal.com]

I finally got caught up on DVR and I was able to watch the ep when it actually aired! It was a really good ep. I know it's not slashy, but I really enjoyed the Meg/Castiel flirtation. I'm imagining Cas saying in that robotic voice, "Did someone order a pizza?" LOL!

The thing with Cas and Dean AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! "I won't kill Dean" There was a tiny, tiny bit of comfort when Cas put his hand on Dean's face while he healed him.

I wonder what Meg will look like next time around?

[roxymissrose.livejournal.com]

That touch--I saw that touch! Cas is so gone for Dean in every way that I wonder that Naomi thought for one minute that confronted with the real Dean. Cas could kill him. And Dean refuses to admit to anyone plus himself how much Cas means to him,and I don't even mean it in a shippy way. Cas really is family to Dean. He certainly treats him as crappy as he treats family, lol!

Meg/Cas makes me smile and giggle and...kinda flinch at the same time. it's so wrong, but so adorable.

"I...am...the Pizza Man. Come...to bring you...a pizza..."

[lexophilia.livejournal.com]

Spoilery-ish comment ahead for other commenters:












All I wanna know is WWRD with a room full of Deans? And I'm talking about in fic, of course. :)

[roxymissrose.livejournal.com]

ooooooo-oh my dear...what wouldn't she do?

[sonofabiscuit77.livejournal.com]

I have very mixed feelings about this episode. On the one hand, that teaser was one of the best they've ever done, all the dead Deans were so awesomely creepy. I also loved the Meg/Sam talk, an actual canon callback to Meg having possessed Sam! Sam was very calm about it, but I guess the poor boy's been through so much worse stuff since then that regular demon possession doesn't seem so bad. On the other hand... there was the rip-off of Swan Song's epic finale of brotherly love, only it was Dean/Cas this time, and yes, that made me roll my eyes very hard.

I agree with you about Dean and normal. In my headcanon, if Dean wasn't raised as a hunter then I can see him as a military dude, a sergeant or some sort of military leader who would inspire men to follow him and lead the good fight. I can't imagine him just being like you say a BBQ in the backyard sort of guy. Definitely resignation more than actual happiness is what comes across in the 6-01 episode, though I think that was also largely because he was grieving.

I also wish that they'd stop pushing the Sam-wants-normal thing so hard. For one thing, we've already been told, and for the other, I think it makes Sam's desires a lot more simplistic than they actually are.

[roxymissrose.livejournal.com]

I really did like the whole thing but that opening--that was an unbelievably creepy scene!

They gave Meg a great send off but I'm sad to see her go and wondering why they got rid of her. She's been an interesting character since day one.

And yeah, the bit of information that we got about Sam this ep wasn't exactly headline news. :)