roxy: (lex borderless by novak_fan)
roxy ([personal profile] roxy) wrote2008-07-18 12:14 pm

oh dear..ramble du jour

SpN really likes the non-con/hooker fic, hunh? And why do so many people make Jensen (the RPS character) into a damaged little monkey? Does he ping you like that? It's so weird, I don't get that at all. I see him being sort of sensitive under all that dickiness, but not delicate. Or romantic. Though I guess I do the same thing with Lex don't I, and lots of folks probably see that as OOC. To me though, Lex *is* delicate. He's like this huge balancing act, a giant teetering stack of behaviors and justifications and lies that let him survive. I absolutely believe that he believes he's doing the right thing, that he's the hero, and other people see him as the villain because they have no vision. Poor little thing...now there's a woobie for you.

I love you Lex Luthor--I want to bear your children!

*whispers* also, I think I'm back for good now...

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2008-07-18 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee, why do I think I know *exactly* what J2 story you're talking about? (And I loved it to pieces, btw, because it turns out I have a giant love for evil!Jared that is as big as my love for evil!Sam. Which doesn't make any sense, really, because I can't in any rational way think of Jared as evil--he strikes me in interviews as this big happy puppydog of a guy who'd never hurt a fly. So my *guess* is that damagedhooker!Jensen comes from the same place as controllingposessive!Jared: kinkland. And stories coming from that place can sometimes be very good, even if I think they're wildly ooc).

Actually, with J2 or RPS in general it's hard for me to think things are really out of character, since what do we really know about these guys anyway? I used to hate J2 AUs but then I got sucked into them, and now I just think of them as if they're movies or something being cast by all my favorite people on the CW, and mostly the characterization issues have stopped bothering me. Well, except sometimes. I actually do understand the complaints about turning either of them into damaged little monkeys. I don't mind a little h/c, but some J2 authors really go a little too emo for my tastes.

I haven't been reading any SV lately (sorry!!), but in all the stories of yours I have read your Lex never pinged me as being *quite* as overthetop as Jensen is in many J2 stories. Though it does seem that authors like to hurt the characters that they love--I wonder why that is? (Lex of course gets so hurt in canon it makes sense, but when you're working with a total blank slate like RPS AU, I wonder why that's so appealing).

[identity profile] roxymissrose.livejournal.com 2008-07-19 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
lol! I swear, I had no particular fic in mind! And when I talk about Jensen, I really don't mean real life Jensen, of course, just the RPS version. Like you say, he could be anything, right? I've discovered I *HATE* almost any story I've read with the CW boys (read *my boys*) They are so totally OOC it makes my teeth grind. Mikey I can see as an idiot but not as an evil douche. And it's weird reading all these het Thomases. See what I mean about the character not the real person? *G* I most enjoyed Thomas and Mikey in the "summer job at the theater" RPS which totally influenced my Clark's Summer Job story.

I miss you here--I have to keep mentioning SpN just to see your smiling little face....*sigh* When I start posting my SpN, I will *insist* you join me. *pouts*

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2008-07-19 06:04 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I completely hear you about the defamation of Tom and Mike (and really other CW people) in these stories. That makes me kind of crazy, too--though I especially hate it when they make Sandy or Danneel into total bitches just to hook Jared and Jensen up, too. What is up with that? I wish RPS people would just make up their villains. I mean, sometimes I can read past it, but a lot of times it totally kicks me out of a story.

And, um, sorry? about the SV stuff. I'm pretty sure I will hit a point sometime when I want to read SV again--I just haven't been there lately. You can blame it on Jensen, I guess.

[identity profile] roxymissrose.livejournal.com 2008-07-19 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
*hugs* Jensen makes a perfectly acceptable excuse for nearly anything. *G*