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1/25/07 10:18 pm
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Oh my. Supernatural, Smallville...Thursday night is made of happy!

So, last part of my story made me kind of depressed. Silly, I know but there you have it. So, this next part is also very depressing even though little scenes keep spinning out in my head, I refuse to write them down. Or I write a few lines of dialog here, a little description there...I keep rewriting it to make it less depressing. Like, Clark runs away from home and ends up in Disneyland, with a tummy ache from too much cotton candy.

Hah. Hark at me, I'm insane!

So, here's the question, how realistic should I make it? Would it be undercutting the story to avoid dealing with Clark on the street? I know in the end it's my decision, but I was just curious as to what ya'll thought about it? He'll be staying with a series of people before Lex (OCs warning, folks!) and I'm not planning on taking a half year getting there. (crosses fingers and prays)

help a sister out?

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1/26/07 03:24 am (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] danceswithgary
I prefer the details, because you do them so well but...if that stops you from moving forward then I guess I can do without. Maybe you could flashback later to explain why Clark is behaving a certain way.

Mine's going very slowly too, so you have my sympathy. *hug*

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1/26/07 04:00 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] roxymissrose.livejournal.com
It's weird, because it's on my mind non-stop, I'm writing great honking scenes in my head--and the minute I sit down, dry. For some reason, I really don't want to do details, it's too sad.

it doesn't feel like yours is going slowly, you update so often! But I know it feels like it, especially when you're picking at it over and over, right?

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1/26/07 12:17 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] danceswithgary
I'm beginning to think this story wanted me to take my time because it just did a sharp right on me and thank goodness I hadn't written myself into a blind alley I couldn't back out of...I've threatened to thumbtack it to the wall if it doesn't behave better.

Now I'm just waving to everyone from extreme AU land from Chapter 5 on. :-D

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1/26/07 03:30 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] myownghost.livejournal.com
>Would it be undercutting the story to avoid dealing with Clark on the street?

my experience in reading stories where clark's kind of derelict is mixed. i can enjoy it a little, but not when it gets so degrading and harrowing that for the rest of the story, i feel like he's hopelessly damaged goods. that may sound more moralistic than i mean for it to. hmmm. i guess i'm trying to say that avoiding it entirely might be too much of a shortcut, but graphic abuse or whatever would be painful to the reader (i.e., me).

so long as i know lex will pull him out of the gutter eventually, though, i'll hang in there no matter what! there's nothing like a good redemption scene. ;)

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1/26/07 04:11 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] roxymissrose.livejournal.com
That's what I think too. He's already been hurt badly, and I hate to make it worse, or rather, worse in a graphic way. So, I'm trying to figure out how to balance it, satisfy the reader and save my brain. I have an idea that I think would accomplish that, and I think I'll squeeze the time that he's on the street way down.

Thank you so much for giving me your input, you have no idea how much I appreciate it!

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1/26/07 04:32 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] myownghost.livejournal.com
that sounds promising! i'll look forward to it.

you're so welcome. :)

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1/26/07 03:52 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] ladydey.livejournal.com
I think that you at least have to setup Clark on the street, it is probably very important to the man that he is becoming and how he will interact with the world once he becomes and adult/Superman. So detail his first week say, living rough, before he finds his way to survive - what ever sugardaddy form that takes. Then you can flashback to whatever rough trade Clark gets up to, maybe dealing more with Clark's feelings about what he's up to (not that this would be happier necessarily, but it might be a work around for some stuff that you don't really want to write about.) This way we get the flavor if not all the pie - besides I am not a big fan of Clark torture anyway.



Re: Still wearing black...

1/26/07 04:21 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] roxymissrose.livejournal.com
Awwwww...*hugs you, sings verse from Cooly High*


Ah-hah. I didn't say I wasn't going to torture him...just not that way. What you say about detailing his first week--wonderful! I was thinking something along those lines--a horrific few days,and then a good Samaritan finding him and helping him out. Of course, that's not to say horrible things aren't to happen later on, but I don't have to be graphic right? Besides, it's been done before by way better writers than me. (and way worse, oy)

Then you can flashback to whatever rough trade Clark gets up to, maybe dealing more with Clark's feelings about what he's up to

I think that idea works great with coming events.

Thank you so much for lending me a shoulder to whine on here!

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1/26/07 05:40 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] ladydey.livejournal.com
I think at the very least you are going to explore the ways in which living (loving) on the street effect Clark more then they did on the show - I love Smallville at times, but I think they glossed over a lot of Clark's lost summer, or at least the psychological ramifications of Clark's need to run, and all the thing that he had to do to survive, before he started to knock over atms. And since this Clark can't knock over atms, he will have to suffer more and viewed through the lens of Clark's earlier molestation, you probably can go some interesting places.

You know I'm always happy to lend a hand - it seems lately I can go on and on about fics that I like.

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1/26/07 04:08 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] clarkscherry.livejournal.com
I want Street Clark! Down on his luck street Clark. I am interested in how he is going to deal with Whitney's death.*sniff* But, you take it where you want it to go and I'll go along for the ride.

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1/26/07 04:23 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] roxymissrose.livejournal.com
Okay--here's the thing, I am going to fuzzy up the street biz, but I'm hoping it'll all be interesting anyway. Poor Clark...what I'm about to do to you. *sniff*

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1/26/07 04:29 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] clarkscherry.livejournal.com
OOOH, that sounds ominous! I'm sure that I'm gonna love this! Hey, I know, send him to the nut ward like in tonights ep. Geez that boy looks great in scrubs and restraints!

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1/26/07 04:40 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] roxymissrose.livejournal.com
Ummm...that he did, and that bright white light looked great on him!!

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1/26/07 07:58 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] dawnybee.livejournal.com
//Like, Clark runs away from home and ends up in Disneyland, with a tummy ache from too much cotton candy.//
But I know Clark and he's so pretty, Pluto may just seduce him in It's a Small World.

//So, here's the question, how realistic should I make it? Would it be undercutting the story to avoid dealing with Clark on the street? //
I'm all for Street Urchin!Clark, but it would be good to see his lows so that when he finally gets it together (if he gets it together because we know how you do ;) ), it'd make it all the more triumphant. Just a thought.

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1/28/07 04:09 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] roxymissrose.livejournal.com
Ah, sorry I'm back here so late!
So--I did put Clark on the street (so to speak) but compressed the time reaaaally a whole lot. It seemed to work. *wipes sweat, removes cape, minion replace after required two beat wait*

also, thank you for ruining Its A Small World for me...my eyes....my eyes....

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1/26/07 08:59 am (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] tabaqui
I think...you don't need details to make it work. Just give us Clark and his *changes*, you know? Like - when Lex comes across him, things he says, does, *is* will tell us...everything.

I hope i'm making sense. But yeah, you don't need to go step by step through everything. Just maybe...like Clark getting up in the morning and he's still dressed, shoes *on* 'cause they got stolen once and he heads out, it's early but the commuter rush leaves a lot of empty tables and untouched/barely touched food at some metro-link station or something and he's tidy enough after a trip to the public bathroom to pass as a student and he can scam somebody's leftover bagel and schmear if he hurries... That kind of thing so we get the idea that he's been doing some hard things but he's okay or...however he is. You know?

*hugs you*

However it goes, i know it'll be good, bay-bee.

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1/28/07 04:11 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] roxymissrose.livejournal.com
And, I practically used your advice word for word. Thank you so much lovey--*HUGHUGHUG*

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1/28/07 04:19 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] tabaqui
Heeeeeee!
I'm glad i could help, bay-bee!
It was *shiver*...
Horrible!
*flails a little*

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1/28/07 05:03 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] roxymissrose.livejournal.com
Oooooo! *Thank you!!!!*

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1/27/07 12:49 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] talitha78.livejournal.com
I think whatever you choose will be super-fantastic!!!! *shakes pom poms*

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1/28/07 04:11 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] roxymissrose.livejournal.com
Heeeee! HUGS!!!

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1/28/07 08:02 am (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] digitalwave
See, the thing is, I completely trust you. Whatever you decide to do will work, sweetie. Just listen to what the story wants to be.

I actually wrote something today. It was only 500 words but, yay! It's also SPN if you'd like to take a look.

*hugs*

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1/28/07 04:11 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] roxymissrose.livejournal.com
I love you!

I run to check!!

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