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I don't like Lana.
I'm not too crazy about Pete either, except in fic.
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11/19/07 03:31 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] rednihilist.livejournal.com
T-shirts with "I Survived Lana."

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11/19/07 03:35 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] roxymissrose.livejournal.com
See, I don't hate her, I dislike her, but I wouldn't call it hate. I'm just tired of folks telling me what's racist or not. Fuck, I'm 53 years old. I know what fucking racism is.
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11/19/07 04:09 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] roxymissrose.livejournal.com
It hurts when you feel you're being discriminated against--true or not. I don't think anyone on my friend's list dislikes Lana because she's of Asian descent for God's sake--if they do, they need to be the fuck off my list.

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11/19/07 11:12 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] juxtoppozed.livejournal.com
I can speak for myself, and only myself and not other folks, but I didn't say that or anything like that. This is perhaps the best summary of the entry I wrote on the subject (http://community.livejournal.com/lana_is_ok/3756.html?thread=16556#t16556 ) and a lot of eloquent folks in Kate's journal. Racism and the groups of people it is perpetuated against is not a monolithic creature; dehumanization is a classic form of unconscious and conscious racism and I think it's worth thinking about why, in fannish discourse, only Lana has been consistently dehumanized. There are tomes of scholarship dedicated to dehumanization/exotification of eastern peoples alone. I see no one making the lanahater=racist strawman, but I see people reducing the discussion to that to try and put a lid on it.

And I, too, know what racism is, both overt and unconscious, and constantly encounter racism in the form of dehumanization. I don't think any experiences should be discounted or elevated or whatever. In my honest opinion, the only way we can ever get anywhere is to have candid discussions about race even when it's outside of our personal experiences or touch on things we may not have consciously considered.