Hmmm...

[roxy]

There are two things (well, a hell of a lot more that two, really...) that I don't understand--lol cats and Sam-is-a-girl stories.

Why is Sam a girl? What for is he female? Because number one--that's one ugly broad. Number two--why??? Explain to me, and I might read those stories. Right now, they just scare me. I can read a limited amount of Lex-in-a-skirt, but gender change stories...not too much.

And the cats just freak me out. There, I said it. They make me all ew and grumpy. But I must admit, inanimate objects with personality can make me laugh. And fish, and other non-fluffy animals. Somehow, it's just cats and dogs I don't like all that much. (as in hell no)


The world was so much simpler when I was a girl.

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[norwich36.livejournal.com]

Lolcats baffles me, honestly. I don't have a cat, though, so....

However, I love girl!Sam stories. Really, I love all the genderswap stuff in the SPN-verse for reasons I cannot explain. I mean, I like both Sam and Dean as boys, don't get me wrong--I love them lots and lots as the very hot men that they are, but I can also enjoy either (or both) of them as girls. Actually, the first Wincest I could actually take, for some reason, were musesfool's girl!Sam stories. If it helps, she has said that her girl!Sam is played by Katee Sackhoff (the girl in my icon, if you don't watch BSG), and she likes girl!Sam because she thinks Dean is more likely to be emotionally open when Sam is a girl v. Sam as a boy. (She generally writes Sam-has-always-been-a-girl stories, not genderswap). I think I enjoy her stories mainly because (a) she is a DAMN good writer and (b)I kind of like getting to have het stories without breaking up my slash OTP. Because I *love* how much Dean loves the ladies, actually--it's one of my favorite things about SPN. And there are so many really good het writers in that fandom it has really reignited my interest in het stories.

I also like Dean-as-a-girl stories (though usually I prefer him to temporarily be turned into a girl), because you know he'd have a lot of fun that way. Also? I think Dean would make an absolutely gorgeous girl, especially if you look at pictures from when he was a teen:

And, um. Possibly I have given this WAY too much thought. Yeah. But you asked!

[roxymissrose.livejournal.com]

That's exactly the kind of response I wanted! It's interesting, it really is, Even if I'm gagging just a wee bit! No, I think the reason I don't like the idea of it says a lot more about me, and my huge dissatisfaction with being female in my youth. I don't mind the temporary switches that much--I've read a few in SV but only in that fandom. I just can't see Sam doing more than freaking and I cant see Dean doing more than sitting around with his own hands up his skirt, so...also, I can barely look at pics of Very Young Jensen. I just find him very creepy and too self-aware. Now, that he has a few years on him, he's incredibly gorgeous!

Hmmmm. SpN brings out my issues, lol!

[norwich36.livejournal.com]

Oh, I can definitely see where you're coming from. I think if I had encountered all the genderswap stuff in the abstract, or via bad writers, I would be pretty wtf about it too. (It probably helps that I came into the fandom via fic rather than via the show--I always thought the boys were pretty, but it wasn't until I had read a TON of fic that I could really get into the show itself. So maybe I just didn't have as strong an attachment to to guys as we see them onscreen?)

And I'm kind of having a het renaissance, myself, so....I mean, there is a fair amount of good Sam/Jess, or Sam/Jess/Dean (which I really do love, but they're hard to find, given that she's dead and all), and some good crossovers (like I love Dean/Faith)--but really I like the boys best with each other. Even if one (or both) is a girl at the time.

tell me that boy makes a girl *points at icon*

[roxymissrose.livejournal.com]

It's interesting how the way you come into the fandom effects your perception. Unlike SV, I was hooked like a fish on SpN before I really got into the fic, and I'm still kind of on and off with SpN fic now. I've never read bad genderswap, I've never read good genderswap--like Mpreg, it's something I avoid--like the Boys getting married, the Boys dressing like girls, the Boys crying way too much...lots of stuff like that. Which of course, I've written in SV--all of it except the GSwap.

So maybe I just didn't have as strong an attachment to to guys as we see them onscreen?)

I think that's why I'm into AUs so much? Because I loved SV fic, loved it to death, loved the characters and had *no* idea what they looked like for the longest time. Not being hung up on the show does free you up to enjoy vastly different takes on the characters, yes?

You know...I can feel the curiosity building. Oh well, I'll just blame you! *GRIN*

Re: tell me that boy makes a girl *points at icon*

[norwich36.livejournal.com]

If you're really curious, I'm pretty sure I have a genderswap tag in my delicious recs, which are here: del.icio.us/norwich36 (Actually my favorite one isn't genderswap per se--it's the lyra wing story where a succubus steals Sam's dick, and Dean just gets really, really curious. It's honestly one of the hottest things ever, imho). Of course, I also have many many plain old Sam/Dean as boys links there, too.

Re: tell me that boy makes a girl *points at icon*

[roxymissrose.livejournal.com]

Hunh! I might check it out, thanks so much. I'm not sure if I will be *that* curious, but I've done a lot of things over the last few years I swore I'd never do. ;)

[norwich36.livejournal.com]

Oh, p.s., I'm replying here to a lot of comments downthread that I think are making huge generalizations based on lack of knowledge: LOTS of the folks writing genderswap and/or Winsister fic ALSO write slash. In fact, a lot of them also write Sam/Dean as boys--they just also enjoy sometimes writing them as girls. So this idea that genderswap is all about hating slash or fear of gaysex? Is pretty damn misinformed. [And frankly, I find a lot more fear of hetsex than fear of gay sex in SPN fandom...but that's a whole different issue].

I didn't want to pick fights with people I don't know in your journal, so I'm just putting it here for the record.

[roxymissrose.livejournal.com]

So this idea that genderswap is all about hating slash or fear of gaysex? Is pretty damn misinformed. [And frankly, I find a lot more fear of hetsex than fear of gay sex in SPN fandom...but that's a whole different issue].

Oh my dear, you know that's going to pop up. I am often very hesitant about voicing a strong opinion because in a lot of cases it's taken for open season on whatever the subject is, but you know me. You know I really want to know what makes it good--or bad--for a person.