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7/12/10 03:07 pm
roxy: (clark odyssey)
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Dear people who write J2,

I love your stories, I really do. I love when you use the entire roster of CW stars, past and present. (yes, some of those folks no longer work for the CW). But let us get some things straight. Mr. Tom Welling has green eyes. Not blue. Superman has blue eyes. Thomas has green eyes, and they are as pretty, if not more, than Jensen's. G-R-E-E-N. Stop making them blue!!

He's almost as tall as Jared; he is taller than Jensen, so much taller that it makes me think they're fudging when they give JA's height as 6'1". He's built more along the line of JP, but with real muscles, less gay porn and more just naturally hot as the sun. *koff*

I understand the need for a villain in most of your stories, but I think that it's becoming fanon in J2 that Thomas is a dick. Sorry, that's not true. Nearly every interview with his co-stars, or article about Thomas, mentions what a nice guy he is, genuinely a nice guy. There's a shit-ton of pics on line with Thomas and kids, and he always looks happy to be in the shot with them--you know, nice to his fans. He's the real deal. The very very *very* few stories I've read in which Thomas is not an abusive asshole bastard pick up on that and more importantly, give him credit for being smart as well as sweet.

I don't know, just feeling oddly protective about my Thomas and Clark lately. I just needed to get that out. I hate what folks do with Thomas, and hate how they waste him in fics. I'd like to read *something* where he figures as large as Christian Kane and gets decent treatment. (by the way, where's the Chris/David fic, fer cryin' out loud?
*deep breath*

Next time, I'm going to talk about what they do to Michael in these stories. You might want to step back from the screen when I do.

;)

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7/13/10 04:05 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] twinsarein.livejournal.com
I was just thinking about this today, because I've been reading a J2 fic where both Tom and Michael are sociopaths. It was actually a good story, and their characters weren't completely horrible - they both cared for Jensen like a little brother. It also had O'Toole, Glover, and Schneider in it (Schneider also turned out to be a bad guy). There were other names, but I didn't recognize them (except for Kripke - and he was a bad guy as well).

Anyway, this is an issue that bothers me as well. I just don't get it - unless it has something to do with SpN fans catching glimpses of their TV characters and transferring that to their real personalities. I'm mean, Lex is the arch-nemesis and Clark isn't always at his most stellar in SV.

Still, this brutalization of Tom and Michael's characters seems pretty consistent. I was even thinking of bringing it up as my one complaint of this person's fic - as an aside more than anything else, but I still haven't made up my mind.

This particular one wasn't as bad as those that just pick one of our boys to use badly, when it could be an Joe out there.

Why don't they use other people from their own fandom...or other CW shows? Why our SV boys? That's what I really don't get. For douches on SpN - you have the character that played Uriel, Zachariah, YED, Aziezel (sp?), and from the last season Brady (go him) and maybe even Crowley. I'm sure there are others that I've forgotten because I've only seen each ep once.

That would make more sense, because the SpN fans would be familiar with those characters. There are probably many SpN fans who have no clue who TW and MR are. It is definitely a mystery to me.

Oh - Jeff Morgan is the exception - I often see him being treated as a douche or brutal in J2 fics.

Also - I look forward to your post on Michael. I'll be cheering you on again...and you say stuff much better than me, so you've saved me a post on this topic. It really is maddening (the J2 thing - not you *g*)
Edited 7/13/10 04:12 am (UTC)

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7/13/10 04:18 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] roxymissrose.livejournal.com
*G*

I don't think they even base these characters on the boys at all. I think it's just I need an asshole or a drugged up maniac, and they shoehorn the guys into those roles with no understanding at all of who they are. If they want Thomas to be the bad guy, then for gods sake give us a reason why he is, or make him interesting at least.

As for not using those fellows you mentioned, it could be that some of the stuff we're reading is before those characters came about? In the early seasons, it pretty much was just Jensen and Jared.

Maybe...maybe it's jealousy, because they know that Thomas is just as beautiful as Jensen? *eg*

pssst: was that story a spy AU?

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7/13/10 04:27 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] twinsarein.livejournal.com
pssst: was that story a spy AU? Yep - 'Someone You Could Have Been' or something along those lines. It was really good, and I didn't really mind the boy's being used badly in this one, because it really made sense in the story. It just bothered me on principal because I know how badly used they are in general.

I was trying to think of baddies in the earlier seasons, but it's been almost a year since I've seen them the once, so no one was coming to mind. It's good to know it's because there weren't...oh wait - there was a Vampire hunter and an FBI agent...right? They weren't regulars, but they each had a few eps, I think?

However, all the guys I mentioned before, and the two above, aren't nearly as hot (or young) as our boys, so I guess I can get why they don't use their own show's actors. Still don't like what they do to them, though.