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[roxy]

Dear people who write J2,

I love your stories, I really do. I love when you use the entire roster of CW stars, past and present. (yes, some of those folks no longer work for the CW). But let us get some things straight. Mr. Tom Welling has green eyes. Not blue. Superman has blue eyes. Thomas has green eyes, and they are as pretty, if not more, than Jensen's. G-R-E-E-N. Stop making them blue!!

He's almost as tall as Jared; he is taller than Jensen, so much taller that it makes me think they're fudging when they give JA's height as 6'1". He's built more along the line of JP, but with real muscles, less gay porn and more just naturally hot as the sun. *koff*

I understand the need for a villain in most of your stories, but I think that it's becoming fanon in J2 that Thomas is a dick. Sorry, that's not true. Nearly every interview with his co-stars, or article about Thomas, mentions what a nice guy he is, genuinely a nice guy. There's a shit-ton of pics on line with Thomas and kids, and he always looks happy to be in the shot with them--you know, nice to his fans. He's the real deal. The very very *very* few stories I've read in which Thomas is not an abusive asshole bastard pick up on that and more importantly, give him credit for being smart as well as sweet.

I don't know, just feeling oddly protective about my Thomas and Clark lately. I just needed to get that out. I hate what folks do with Thomas, and hate how they waste him in fics. I'd like to read *something* where he figures as large as Christian Kane and gets decent treatment. (by the way, where's the Chris/David fic, fer cryin' out loud?
*deep breath*

Next time, I'm going to talk about what they do to Michael in these stories. You might want to step back from the screen when I do.

;)

Comments

[huzzlewhat.livejournal.com]

Hee! I actually take it as something of a badge of honor. Sort of like when James Marsters said that there's this natural inbuilt feeling that people who are that pretty can't be smart — but Tom is. I figure it works the same way. There has to be something wrong with our Thomas. If he's that pretty, he can't possibly be nice. Or smart. And if he is that nice and smart and pretty, then... why isn't he the hero of the story?

Gotta have flaws so that there's conflict. Otherwise it's just Jensen and Tom playing golf and being nice to each other. Which might be reality, but it makes for crappy fic.

If I were to ever write J2, I'd envision Tom's place as off to the side, being quietly amused at the shenanigans and making dry-as-dust asides to the audience. Sort of like a Greek-god chorus. :-)

The blue eyes, though, that's just annoying.

[ladyjanelly.livejournal.com]

I just hate real people as villains in general. But I hear you with Tom, because he does seem like such a sweet guy.

[roxymissrose.livejournal.com]

If I were to ever write J2, I'd envision Tom's place as off to the side, being quietly amused at the shenanigans and making dry-as-dust asides to the audience. Sort of like a Greek-god chorus. :-)

Now *that* I could definitely live with,and in fact, in one fic I read that was pretty much his function--that, and keeping Jensen's ego under control. I thought it worked really well.

Otherwise it's just Jensen and Tom playing golf and being nice to each other. Which might be reality, but it makes for crappy fic.

LOL! I think you just pointed out why I'd fail so hard at RPS.

The blue eyes, though, that's just annoying.

Right? I mean, come on--there's just no excuse for that!

[me-ya-ri.livejournal.com]

*snuggles you* And this is yet another reason why I avoid real people stories of every type. Creeps me out when writers get real people's characters wildly wrong--and eye color, good heavens, go look at a picture, just one! >.>

*gets garbage can lid as a shield for the Michael talk* Okay, lemme get a pot as a helmet and I'm ready! *grin*

[ferdalump.livejournal.com]

"But let us get some things straight. Mr. Tom Welling has green eyes. Not blue. Superman has blue eyes. Thomas has green eyes, and they are as pretty, if not more, than Jensen's. G-R-E-E-N. Stop making them blue!!"

This really made me giggle. Incorrect details like that in fic make me crazy, too!

**pets you** I know you love your Thomas. I never make him the bad guy in fic I just make Lois move to Gotham so Clark (and Tom) can live happily ever after with Lex (and Michael.) :D :D

But seriously, it's true. Everything I've ever read gives proof that Tom is a great person and so it's kinda wrong and mean to make him a bad guy. :\ I'm sorry people do that and it upsets you. :( I'm equally as defensive when it comes to Bale.

And oh Lordy, I have popcorn ready for when your rant about how people treat Rosenbaum is posted. :D

[tragicllyhip.livejournal.com]

hiya:) just wanted to add that having seen a certain man's eyes up close recently , they are both green and blue, i swear on a stack of 6-pack abs:)

And he's one of the nicest people ever, genuinely nice, not fakery nice like the TVD peeps, real nice, so thanks for sticking up for him:)

[cinderella81.livejournal.com]

Yes, Tom has GREEN eyes ... and I hear ya! Not a dick at all ... in all the interviews I've read and seen he seems like the nicest guy ever ...

Oooooooh ... Christian Kane ... *drools* ...

And I will don my protective padding and keep clear of the screen when you post about Michael *nods*

[suzvoy.livejournal.com]

SUZ DOES NOT APPROVE

[roxymissrose.livejournal.com]

Most of the times, real people as villains make me uncomfortable unless the writer sells it hard. And I can see wanting to take on that challenge, turning someone we "know" into a monster. But this just shoving someone into the role of random asshole out of nowhere--don't like that much.

[roxymissrose.livejournal.com]

Girl, you know I have *MUCH* to say about Michael being character assassinated in all those fics! LOL!

I'll send you a flak jacket before I gert started! :)

[roxymissrose.livejournal.com]

I just make Lois move to Gotham so Clark (and Tom) can live happily ever after with Lex (and Michael.) :D :D


Heeeeeeee! You're the kindest person ever!

I mean, I know it's RPS and that makes it unreal and AU right from the get, but even if they made him at least an interesting bad guy, then I'd be slighlty less GRRR about it, you know?

And don't even get me started about Mikey!!!

[roxymissrose.livejournal.com]

*BLINK*

oh my...really? Okay, not going there, not going there...*fans self*

Ha! I KNEW IT! I always felt there was just no way that smile could be faked--that one he has when he's posing with kids. So sweet! Thanks for confirming it!

[roxymissrose.livejournal.com]

heck yeah, girl! All that damn making my Michael a drug addled, sex-obsessed, bald idiot. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!! Sure, he's unique and weird, but it's a *good* weird! LOL!

[jeannev.livejournal.com]

Can I get an Amen!

I think Tom is just so overall amazing, people just look for ways to tear him down. He's a creep, he's a bad actor, he's stuck-up, and so on... But at the end of the day, he's still amazing, so screw 'em

[theclexfactor.livejournal.com]

Here Here! (I don't even read J2, but just reading that they treat my Tommy like crap makes me want to bite someone.)

[roxymissrose.livejournal.com]

RIGHT????

Our Thomas is not a blue-eyes meany. >:(

[myownghost.livejournal.com]

i'll look forward to that rant!

i've only written rps in one fandom, and i was careful to treat the people carefully and with respect. come to think of it, i need to write some more of it, because one guy in particular is enormously fun to write. but i'd never demonize anyone in the way you're describing.

[petit-rhino.livejournal.com]

Yeah, Tom as a villain is a bit cliche I agree. And Micheal as the batshit crazy one. Honestly, in some of those fics I'm surprised he's not loncked up in an institution. Though since Misha appeared some of the character-craziness has been transfered.

[roxymissrose.livejournal.com]

I think in J2, it's just that people have seen pictures and heard the name, but not much more than that. Thomas is a big wheel on the CW, and the fact that Jensen was on the show for a season makes Thomas a logical choice to toss into J2s.
And all the rest of it is lazy writing as far as I'm concerned.

And damn right he's amazing! :)

[roxymissrose.livejournal.com]

I love J2, I read it like people eat popcorn, but oy, nothing makes me back up harder than a douchnizzle Thomas in a fic. They just don't get the wonder that is Thomas. He's a lover, not an asshole. *G*

Those guys are missing tremendous possibilities...*snerf*

[roxymissrose.livejournal.com]

It's not even that they demonize him...it's as if they don't get that there's a real person out there. I mean, I'm working on a J2 in which everybody *but* Michael is a horrible asshole, at least as far as I'm concerned. I could handle Thomas being the bad guy if he was more than a cardboard cut-out of a villain, y'know? You can make them the bad guy and still show respect, I think. ;)

[roxymissrose.livejournal.com]

Though since Misha appeared some of the character-craziness has been transfered.

Yeah, I've noticed that--and once again, bad characterization is a problem. Man, I'd be afraid to write Misha--that is one complicated dude!

[rockstarpeach.livejournal.com]

Heh. I was actually just talking to Ash about the asshole factor.

It's funny, Jensen is my guy, and I absolutely friggin' LOVE it when he's an asshole in fic. It just does something for me. Of course, he can come off as kind of an asshole at cons and stuff too, I think, but him being a dink in a fic is just a world of win for me. So hot.

I read one once, where Jensen is a douche, and he keeps letting Tom suck his dick, and then hooks up with Jared, and Tom and Jared are nice guys, and it was pretty awesome :)

[mskatej.livejournal.com]

LOL you tell em Roxy!

[tragicllyhip.livejournal.com]

Denada:) I know i'm not around or anything, well i am, but silently, but i always appreciate you fighting the good fight. Tom is good people, people just need to deal:)