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roxyI fell off the earth for a minute, but I'm back! I rewatched Show to see if I missed anything and it was even more awesome the second time around! Don't judge me but I'm feeling the Benny/Dean so hard! Which means that Benny's going to turn out to be a back-stabbing, stalker/user, blood-sucking monster out to wreck Dean's life.
I'm off to respond to comments I've received, and stalk other folks LJs for their Show Watch Feels. Whooo-ha!
I'm off to respond to comments I've received, and stalk other folks LJs for their Show Watch Feels. Whooo-ha!
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10/6/12 04:05 am (UTC)(no subject)
10/6/12 04:23 am (UTC)I understand that lots of folks were underwhelmed but me, I loved it! I know that once again, they gave us more questions than answers, I'm hoping that they'll actually answer them!
And no hating, for cryin' out loud! SpN is just a show. Sure, it's one I happen to be fixated on, *hah*--but still! *HUGS*
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10/6/12 04:59 am (UTC)Hurry!
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10/6/12 05:24 am (UTC)(no subject)
10/6/12 04:59 am (UTC)Oh, and is it just me or does the "shutting all the doors to hell forever" plotline feel like backsliding? The show kind of went from lots of monsters and one mysterious "thing that killed Mom & Jess" to a couple of demons, to a lot of demons, to a lot of demons AND angels AND the Apocalypse, to more Apocalypse and *Lucifer*, and then we start a new story line where we go from the father of each monster race, to the mother of all monster races, to the evil creatures that roamed the Earth and were locked away before Lucifer even fell (if I'm understanding my timelines correctly), to... lots of demons again. It feels anti-climatic.
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10/6/12 05:30 am (UTC)I thought the evolution made sense, and I'm looking forward to seeing where they go with the "Destroy All Monsters" line. SpN never lays its cards out until more than a few stories into the season and I like it. I'm in the minority that I loved the last few seasons. Folks get pissed about them but they obviously never watched Buffy or Angel--talk about some painful fucking seasons--or the entirety of SV. Lord...
I wish they'd gone another way with the Cas storyline but in the end, no one rides in the car full time but Sam and Dean.
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10/6/12 06:05 am (UTC)I would just like to take a second to point out that even though other peeps have apparently not watched Buffy & Angel (or maybe just forgot how bad it got) the SPN writers clearly have seen them, and Firefly/Serenity too. A guy with no soul and therefore lacking in a moral compass goes forth to reclaim his soul for someone he loves and succeeds, but is driven mad because of it. Sam and Dean (brotherly love, dammit. I am very anti-incest) or Spike and Buffy. A beloved character gets infect by (an) Old One(s), evil from before the dawn of man, and their body is slowly eaten away from the inside, being taken over by the monster, until they ultimately die. Cas or Fred? An organization comes up with a drug that causes those who ingest it to become so apathetic and complaint that they literally sit around doing nothing, except in a small percentage of cases, where the subjects become crazy and filled with *rage*. The Alliance and Miranda or the Leviathans? An that is one of the reasons why I don't like seasons 6&7. It's just lazy writing.
Yeah I get that, but if they have to get rid of him, could they just do it and not go back and forth? He's evil, but then he redeems himself, but then he dies, but then he's actually still alive but he has amnesia but the he doesn't but then he asorbs Sam's crazy (wtf?) and goes catatonic, but then he's not anymore, but then it turns out he's still not really himself, but then he's going to try anyway, but then he goes to purgatory and dies or something, and five bucks says but then he comes back again. Like I said, exhausting.
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10/6/12 06:33 am (UTC)I guess I was thinking of this:
But if we think of demons as the top of the monster food chain and all the supernatural beasties are related it could be a DAM plot. But most likely, it's not. ;)
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10/6/12 06:27 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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10/7/12 05:58 pm (UTC)Also your layout is super cool ;D
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10/7/12 07:12 pm (UTC)After all, Dean had his shot. :)
And thank you! It's all festive now!
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10/6/12 08:09 am (UTC)That aside, I still love the hints of Dean/Benny and Sam sidelining himself (I think there is more to that story, but I've never been the biggest fan of Sam, so I wouldn't mind if it was just the way it appears, either). I loved that the Impala is back, too, and that we still get my favorite demon - Crowley.
Maybe my standards are low, especially reading the other comments, because I really enjoyed all seasons of Buffy, and some of my favorite episodes were in season six, and I loved, loved, loved the Finale, and Buffy's solution. I was never a fan of the spin-off, but Buffy I enjoyed from start to finish, and was totally impressed with many, many different aspects of the writing.
But, I watch these shows to be entertained, so if they do that for me, then I'm good. So, maybe it's not that my standards are low, but that I'm easy. *g*
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10/6/12 06:18 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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10/7/12 06:27 am (UTC)(no subject)
10/7/12 04:24 am (UTC)But, I watch these shows to be entertained, so if they do that for me, then I'm good. So, maybe it's not that my standards are low, but that I'm easy. *g*
Me too!
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10/7/12 06:19 am (UTC)(no subject)
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10/7/12 03:33 pm (UTC)(no subject)
10/6/12 10:25 am (UTC)I'm rather amused by the nay-sayers. Since when has a season opener given us *all the answers*?? Since when is *anything* that easy on Show? Plus - Sam's story has *way* more details than we're getting! Way more.
I am the same - I have loved and adored every damn season. EVERY one. Sure, some episodes are less than awesome, but overall seasons have always made me happy, happy, happy. This one is no exception. YAY YAY YAY for show!
I loved how Dean and Benny apparently bonded and oh my, yes, that will end in tears. And Castiel - something big happened there. Either he sacrificed himself so Dean could leave, or he 'went native' because his madness took him over, or he lost his grace...something. Nothing so cut-and-dried as 'he died'. No no.
*twirls you*
I'm your Show-loving buddy, just come to me for happy happy joy joy. :)
*twirls you*
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10/6/12 12:03 pm (UTC)(no subject)
10/6/12 05:42 pm (UTC)I just don't know!!! It's possible Dean had to use Castiel to get out, but even after being in Purgatory for a year i can't imagine him consciously making the decision to kill Castiel unless he just wasn't himself anymore. And probably not even then.
*has so much anticipation for next week!!!*
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10/7/12 04:29 am (UTC)Ooooo! how cool would Cas letting go mean reverting to his real form? But would that make Dean look so guilty? I think he did something bad, and it affected Cas in some way.
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10/7/12 05:05 am (UTC)*flails*
I want to know!!!
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10/6/12 03:53 pm (UTC)So, whoo-hoo, I say! SHow is back! *throws confetti*
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10/6/12 05:52 pm (UTC)I understand what you're saying, but frankly - I can't be having with the people who pick Show to pieces and hate on half of what's going on and find *nothing* to be happy about. Not only does it baffle me, but it just seems incredibly pointless.
Does Show have some issues? Sure - but then again, it's TV. It's basic, most elemental purpose is to make money, and for many reasons, that comes with a specific set of rules right now. It's also written to appeal to and be understood by the lowest common denominator, basically, so it can grab the biggest market. Yes, writers have some leeway, and some shows are a lot smarter than others, but they can't be *so* smart that people don't get them.
And the number of times i see people commenting on how confused they were/are over a plot point or action, it's obvious that the 'anvils'? Aren't always anvils to everybody.
So i wallow in the joy of a show with two brothers who would and have died for each other, who have betrayed trusts and defeated demi-gods and gods, have fought angels and demons and each other and come out on top time after time. Who are broken and hurting and so very *damaged* but who can still love. Archetypes dredged up from a collective history of storytelling that goes millennia.
Heroes whose destiny compels them to fight, lose, suffer, regroup (or be reborn) to fight again. What more could anyone want? :) Plus, dear gods, they're *good* at this, and they can do it looking so *very* fine.
(You're not stupid, bb. You just see more of the good then the bad.) I've read some awesome commentary on this show from people who are finding all kinds of things in it that i never even guessed at. So that coin has two sides.
Boys are back! YES!!!
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10/6/12 07:21 pm (UTC)Exactly. I don't mean to say, "If they hate the show so much, why do they watch it?" That's pretty short-sighted, too, and (as you say further down in your comment), there is a lot of insightful, interesting and entertaining meta to be had in SPN fandom. It's just so counterproductive and self-defeating to spend so much time upset over where you wanted the show to go that you stop enjoying the journey. As long as I remember that, I do well.
I saw the spoilers coming out of Comic Con this summer (basically, Sam didn't look for Dean) and I got upset. I know better than to read spoilers, but I can't always stop myself. And that's still mostly what people are upset over--Sam abandaned his brother for some bitch and her bitch. I don't think that's all there is to the story, though. I'll certainly be a bit let down if it is, but then I'd be even more irritated if we learned everything that's happened to the brothers over the last year in one episode, too.
Let us chill, my sisters, and be about the brothers again. :D
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10/6/12 08:04 pm (UTC)"...to spend so much time upset over where you wanted the show to go that you stop enjoying the journey."
YES YES YES. Fanfiction is for the way you want/wish/need the show to go. Show is the way it *does* go, and you have to either resign yourself to hating it and let it go, or you have to enjoy what is given and build it in other directions in your own headcannon/stories/art/vid/whatever.
I love to write, but i'm not going to say 'so and so is a crappy writer, i could do so much better!!' For all i know, if given the opportunity, my own 22 episode 'arc' could be as horrible as the worst criticism Show has ever gotten.
Yes, let us be all about the brothers, and not the hate. :)
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10/7/12 04:34 am (UTC)There are lots of very bright fangirls who post thoughtful ideas and criticisms of SPN, and they always make me wonder what's wrong with me for liking it so much.
Supernatural is a big ole exciting comic book as far as I'm concerned and I'm not looking for my comics to educate me in regards to...well, anything, really.
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10/7/12 04:27 am (UTC)*HUGS* We're happy so that's all that counts, lol!
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10/7/12 05:05 am (UTC)All the lurve.
:)
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10/6/12 12:01 pm (UTC)(no subject)
10/6/12 03:18 pm (UTC)I'm waiting for someone to write me those stories....*g*
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